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Angry Harry's Student's Guide To Feminism
- a collection of some relevant pieces
Homer, The Iliad
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It is entirely seemly for a young man killed in battle to lie mangled by the bronze spear. In his death, all things appear fair.
Ah yes. Those were the days when women had it bad.
Polygamy
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The presence of polygamy in a society is often seen as a mark of female
oppression.
If anything, however, it is an indication that some men are wealthy enough
to afford many wives, while the other men are either too poor or too dead to
get married; with the number of these latter men indicating with reasonable
accuracy the number of excess wives maintained by the former!
Feminism:
Damaging The Most Productive
It
is men mostly who have invented,
discovered and done nearly everything that has ever been
invented, discovered and done.
And there is barely an object or an idea that has not been conceived,
created, constructed, manufactured or maintained mostly by men.
Indeed, there is virtually nothing even in your own house or in its surrounds -
and not even the bricks themselves - that does not mostly
reflect the labours of men.
That is the reality.
As such, surely, only the most stupid of women could really believe that
their own societies could ever benefit from undermining their
own men; the most productive members in their societies by far.
And yet western politicians, ever desperate to follow their own self-serving
ambitions, prostrate themselves before some of the most obnoxious,
dysfunctional women on the planet in order to benefit from their influential
support.
These women have waged a successful campaign of hatred against the
most productive members of their own societies for many decades now,
but they pretend to the world that they are merely concerned with
'equality'.
The truth, however, is that their ideology is rationalised, fuelled and
energised almost wholly by their hatred of men. Nothing else explains their
attitudes and their behaviours. And they have now succeeded
in undermining men in just about every sphere of their lives.
The good news, however, is that many men are beginning to fight back. And,
with any luck, it will not be too long before these revolting women are
exposed for who they really are, and they are booted out of influential
positions and drummed out of sight.
(Also see Equality Between Men and Women Is Not Achievable, Some BBC Propaganda Tricks and
Slap That Face.)
The Abuse Industry
The abuse industry - just like any other organism - wants to grow.
Always remember this when you read your newspapers.
Here are some of the people behind the abuse industry.
The police, the prison officers, the probation officers, the lawyers, the judges, the other courtroom staff, the children's charities, the feminists, the women's groups, the newspapers, the soaps, the films, the chat programs, the news programs, the women's magazines, the teens magazines, the emotion
counselors, the hypnotherapists, the agony aunts, the psychologists, the psychoanalysts, the psychiatrists, the therapists, the
associated doctors and nurses, the spiritual healers, the social workers, the gossips, the academics, the priests, the politicians, the government, the trades unions, the racially 'aware', the politically corrected, and, of course, the allegedly abused.
All these people struggle to extend the definition of 'abuse'.
And they keep succeeding; thereby damaging and de-stabilising all of the close relationships that people might have.
The bigger the pie, the more can they eat!
(Also see The NSPCC Needs To Be Stopped.)
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And, if appropriate, also see Email Advice- Especially For Young Women
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It's the bankers, Stupid ...
Hi Harry
I have been reading your articles for hours and basically I agree. However,
you are blaming the radical women who could have done nothing on their own. It
is like husbands blaming their wives when it is the attorneys that file all the
papers and make all the decisions.
I cannot convince you in a brief email. However, why do the think the press
and the laws are so much alike in UK, USA, Australia, and Canada. If they were
truly independent countries, there would not be so much similarity on women's
lib.
Nick Rockefeller told Russo that the elite families created and financed the
women's lib movement so they could tax another half of the population and so
that the children would be trained by them in government schools rather than in
the context of the family unit. (See
the video interview.)
It is the international bankers that own the federal reserve and the national
banks that make all the decisions. They own the printing press, they can create
hundreds of billions if necessary to finance whatever. With the printing press
they have purchased control of the media and entertainment industry. If they
didn't agree, the radical women would have no outlet. They certainly don't have
the money to buy the media. These international bankers control most of the
politicians, the judges, and most every aspect of government. Few politicians
can get elected unless they are supported by the media.
Maybe there is a men's movement, but they don't have a hundred billion and
cannot raises 1/10 of one percent of that. And neither could the women. You are
limited to the internet and maybe at best a million in donations. The bankers,
using the government, radical women, and the media will outspend you and men's
movement by more than 10,000 to one.
I always have some degree of hope; however realistically, it may be hopeless.
Look how bad it was for the slaves before that world revolt during the Roman
times. Until it gets that bad, or almost that bad, it is unlikely that the men
will revolt.
D
Hello D
Let me state quite categorically that I do not have any doubts at all that very powerful forces are
behind the feminists and their aims. And I mentioned some of these in my piece
entitled Fathers Groups Miss The Big Picture.
It is quite clear to me that bankers, corporations and governments
are well aware that they have very much to gain for themselves if they can
continually stir up gender disharmony and, further, that they are doing exactly
this.
To me, this is blatantly obvious. It is as clear as daylight!
And, as you say, this is why, for example, 'feminism' is rapidly taking hold
across the world.
The forces that promote feminism and relationship breakdown are incredibly powerful. Unimaginably powerful.
But I tend to view them as arising from huge self-serving organisms that
dwell amongst us rather than as the result of a few highfaluting social
engineers (senior bankers, Bilderberg, etc) lording it over us.
I do not doubt that such social engineers exist at the top of the tree - the
'Illuminati', in the view of some - but these people simply could not wield such
huge power without the aid of the forces of the self-serving organisms of which they are merely a tiny
part.
If you like, these social engineers might be the train drivers - but they are
not the train!
My favourite way of demonstrating this is with reference to the senior
Japanese car-manufacturing executive who admitted that the TV adverts for his cars (which
showed women kicking men out of moving cars in a humorous way) were likely to
make women feel more assertive and more aggressive towards men and, hence, as
such, his company would likely sell more cars to women as they became
increasingly independent of men.
In other words, this is just one example of how stirring up gender disharmony
can result in the sale of more products - in this case, cars. But the same can
be said of very many other products - or 'services'; such as those provided by
governments.
However, the advertising department of this Japanese car company
would be tiny in comparison to the tens of thousands of workers who
actually build the cars, distribute them, sell them to the public etc etc.
And it is also tiny in comparison to the number of people who actually buy
the cars.
And so my point is this.
Yes; huge power is being wielded by a few
people working in the advertising department of this Japanese car company
(the 'illuminati' of the company) when it spends internationally millions upon millions
of dollars in such a manner that stirs up gender disharmony, but this
power is, nevertheless, dependent upon the millions of other
people who are necessarily involved in the buying and selling of these
cars - and, of course, this includes the customers who buy the cars.
And if some of these people - one or two million, say
- decide that they are unhappy with what the advertising department is
doing, then, in my view, the advertising department can quite easily be
persuaded to change its tune.
Indeed, if just a few of those people in the 'powerful' advertising
department can be persuaded (through fair means or foul) to change their
point of view or, perhaps, if they become disenchanted with what feminism
is doing to them, then, once again, the huge power that they wield can be
diverted.
And, of course, if the general public can gradually be moved towards
experiencing misandry as distasteful - rather than as humorous - then
those in the
advertising department will have to switch tactics in order to sell their
cars.
Thus, while I wholly accept your view that a few powerful people can
exert some truly massive forces in the direction of stirring up gender
disharmony, I do not accept that the MM can do nothing about this -
because these powerful people make up only a small fraction of the
organism of which they are a part.
Furthermore, my belief is that the MM is going to exert a force in the
future that is
absolutely unparalleled and, further, that there is absolutely no hope at
all of stopping it.
Or - as I prefer to think about it - the organism of 'men' is
eventually going to be the largest social force on the planet - and
completely unstoppable.
There are so many ways in which I can see this coming
about that I could easily write a book on it! And the main reason that I
do not bother to spell this all out hither and thither on this website is
that it just seems pointless to do so - because it wouldn't achieve
anything.
But I suppose that I can summarise all the possibilities by pointing
out that men are absolutely everywhere. From the wealthiest
of billionaires to the lowest of paupers, they are everywhere. They are in
high places and in low places. They do just about every important job that
there is.
And, of course, they are also working in the advertising department of
the aforementioned Japanese car company!
And when enough men - perhaps just a small percentage of them -
begin actively to undermine and oppose those people in their
field of vision who support the feminist agenda, the game will be up.
Indeed, there is only one thing that the MM really needs in order to
succeed.
Just one.
Attention.
In other words, it just needs to acquire an audience that is
significantly larger than the one that it currently has.
This is all that it needs.
From this, the rest will follow.
And, in my view, getting this attention is not going to be very hard to
do - thanks mostly to the internet.
Having said this, I must admit that I have been very surprised and somewhat
agitated at discovering how difficult it has been for the MM to get some
significant attention over the past few years but, nevertheless, this will
eventually happen.
How can it not?
It is just not possible any longer for millions upon millions of men to
remain hugely dissatisfied with what is going on and yet do nothing about
this - in their own way.
My impression is that those in the higher echelons are still mostly
unaware of the forces that are stacking up against them and, further, it
is true to say that, at these higher levels, feminism is still being
pushed firmly onward - hence the seeming lack of progress of the MM.
But, closer to the ground, these forces are a-gathering, and I can see
them very clearly.
And my belief is that those who continue to stir up hatred towards men
and/or who promote polices that treat men badly will soon find themselves
in very serious trouble as MRAs operating both inside and outside their
organisations begin to target them.
Here is one recent example.
I received a communication from a man who is
responsible for the advertising of job positions within a certain government
department. He advised me that he had pulled some £75,000 of his
advertising budget out of the Guardian newspaper as a result of a piece
that I had written.
Very small beans, I know. But beans such as these would grow and grow
if the MM was receiving more attention.
Furthermore, given the truly appalling manner in which so many men have
been treated by certain powerful groups and the utterly disgusting
self-serving nature of those who seem to be behind this, I have little
doubt that the MM will eventually turn into an extremely energetic and
aggressive force.
One piece of evidence to support this point of view arises from the
fact that MRAs who understand what is going on remain as active
activists for years. They simply cannot let go - so enraged
are they by what they see happening.
I cannot tell you how many times I have seen long-time MRAs publicly
throwing in the towel - swearing blindly that they have had enough of all
the 'slow progress', and that they are going to do other things with their
lives - and yet, back they come, driven back into activism by something or
other that has happened in their world; perhaps just an item on the news.
And this inability to 'let go' happens because there is nowhere
to go to escape from all the misandry.
Once you have seen it, you cannot escape from it! - much as you would
like to.
And so, as I said above, all that the MM really needs is some more
attention - and then the ball will begin to roll - faster and faster -
continually energised by virtue of the fact that there is no escape for
those who have been 'enlightened'.
I suppose that I can summarise my response to you by saying
this. Yes, the forces that seek to profit from the stirring up of misandry,
the promotion of societal disharmony and the disempowerment of men are
absolutely, mind-bogglingly enormous.
But the Men's Movement is going to
be much more powerful than all of these forces combined - more powerful by
a very long way.
Furthermore, I can promise you that - at least here in the UK - our
message is getting through to - and being accepted by - certain
influential newspaper editors, a few politicians, senior police officers
and civil servants, judges, the military, the unions and others. But many
of these people remain stuck between a politically-corrected rock and a
feminist-inspired hard place - unable, at the moment, to move effectively
within their own spheres of influence.
They have to tread lightly!
But many of them are, clearly, gradually jiggling their way out of
their restraints and they will begin soon to open up the door to some very
serious activism on our own parts; after which, the floodgates
will begin to open.
This sort of thing has taken much, much longer to materialise than I
ever envisaged would be the case (I didn't appreciate just how powerful
was the stranglehold) but it is very definitely happening.
With regard to your point about bankers, governments and corporations
wanting women to be in the workplace so that they can profit themselves, I
do not think that women being in the workplace is a problem. After all,
women should be in the workplace, shouldn't they?
The problem for men is not women going out to work, the problem is the
huge amount of mistreatment, misandry and disadvantage being heaped upon men through
one avenue or another.
And with regard to your most valid point about governments wanting a
greater sway over the children in order to indoctrinate them etc etc, I
simply point out that when the Men's Movement
eventually dominates the government - which it will - this indoctrination
will be fashioned more appropriately.
Let me re-state that the MM only really needs some significant increase in the amount of attention that
it gets. There are so many ways in which the MM can then exert its
influence that there will be no hope of standing in its way.
And - since I am on this subject - the only reason that even many MRAs
remain sceptical about this point of view is because, to put it bluntly,
they are still not thinking 'outside of the box' and they often limit themselves
to thinking only about 'formal' mechanisms of activism.
A good example of this type of limited thinking was exhibited by the
Canadian feminist Professor Pierrette Bouchard when she wanted to get
funding to monitor men's websites for anti-feminist rhetoric - which she
described as 'hate speech' - and to have them closed down. My response to
her was to send her the URL of my taunting piece Canadian Feminists Getting Worried
to show her that she had no hope of blocking anti-feminist activism. She
never replied. LOL! But the point here is simply to demonstrate that there
are now so many ways in which the feminists can be undermined that there
is no hope of stopping this.
Another example of this limited thinking was the way in which
Fathers4Justice - at the very height of its successes publicity-wise -
failed completely and utterly to direct the huge numbers of visitors to
its website to any other men's groups. The result was that
this large number of visitors to its website - many of who were
journalists - remained blissfully unaware that there were many other
serious issues that men were being badly affected by - i.e. issues other than
child access problems - and that there were many other men's activists
engaging with them. And Fathers4Justice therefore came across to much of
the world at the time as a small group of isolated nutcases who were
probably making a fuss about nothing.
It was very much a lost opportunity - all that was required were a few
URL links on its website - and a further consequence was
that a large number of activists (particularly in the USA) then gave up actively
supporting Fathers4Justice.
But, there we go. The MM is still very young. The activists are not
funded. They are mostly inexperienced. They have no effective power base.
And the forces which are stacked against them are - as you have said
- truly colossal.
Nevertheless, I would say that they are doing rather well given the
circumstances.
Just wait and see what they do in the future!
Best wishes
Harry
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On men having too much testosterone ...
Hi Harry,
im aware i have mailed you several times with issues that concern me, but on
BBC News today there is just something i can not ignore.
Apparently the Stock Markets are wanting to decrease the number of young male
traders because they cant think clearly due to testosterone. They want to employ
more women who are supposedly "more sensible and rational". Perhaps
older men too, who have reduced levels of testosterone.
Harry i really dont know how much more i can take of this. Men are being
treated like animals and now refered to like animals who have no control over
primitive violent instincts. Somehow mailing you regarding these issues makes no
difference to how this angers me. Nothing will change.
Harry, i have a degree in psychology and another in history. Psychological
research has shown that men are on average slightly more intelligent that women.
This is a scientific fact that even female psychologists have come to accept. Im
beginning to think that all boys should have their balls cut off at birth so we
can just get this emasculation of society over and done with as quick as
possible. It is really driving me nuts now.
You predict a future where women will be able to select the gender of their
unborn child, thus creating an unbalance in the male/female population. Isnt
this what everyone wants?
I have ZERO respect for women now. A woman must earn my respect, untill then
i will treat women as they treat men. I will reduce a woman to a victim of her
hormones who is unable to think in a rational term, I will be outspoken about
male IQ levels being higher. ... Every opportunity i have to degrade women and
demoralise them, i shall take and enjoy.
Enough is enough
T
Hi T
You're in a good mood today!
LOL!
Harry
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From AH's missus ...
Angry Harry you are so cool. Take a look at this. It will put a smile upon
your face.
http://tinyurl.com/2b5akf
What time will you get back tonight?
M
Stop pestering me with your emails Bi#ch, or I'll find a Russian woman who
can cook.
About 8.
Yo!
H
Yo! again!
BTW; That devious ho's cholesterol level turned out to be 3.5. In other
words, she is probably going to live to be 100. So, Yep; that's right Boys,
Angry Harry,
man o' the world, and slayer of all things foul and feminist, is
probably going to be stuck with this scheming harlot for another four decades.
Oh cruel world.
Cruel, cruel world.
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Some of your questions answered ...
Firstly, I must apologise if I have not replied to your emails, but I just do
not have the time.
Anyway. Here are some short answers to questions that keep
cropping up. They are in no special order, and I am now going to zap through
some of my emails to refresh my memory.
1. Yes. The MM is very definitely growing. I do not just say this to
keep the troops motivated.
2. No. I have not visited a forum in ages. I know that some people post stuff
on forums on my behalf - and it sometimes looks as if it comes from me - but me
it is not.
3. Yes. I do nowadays post various comments on mainstream media sites - but not under
the name Angry Harry. I have a fistful of aliases and email addresses. However,
most of what I write goes on this website.
4. No. I am not a police officer or a closet agent for MI5, MI6 or the
FBI. I genuinely believe that our law enforcement agencies need to
be able to access more information about potential terrorists or criminals. In
particular, I want a national DNA database to be set up, and I can see no valid
reason for being scared of one.
5. No. I am not a racist. I couldn't give two hoots about the colour of
people's skins or their racial backgrounds.
6. No. I am not concerned that some of my articles might induce aggression
against government officials such as judges or politicians. Why should I be
concerned? These people seem to have no qualms at all about destroying
completely the lives of others. Indeed, how many men commit suicide and even
murder as a result of the policies of these self-serving corrupt
officials?
Hundreds every year - in the UK alone.
And they do not give a damn.
7. No. I have never had any aggravation at all from sources
allied to government.
8. I do not link to MND because MND does not link to me - but, yes, I do
visit MND. Furthermore, I think that Mike LaSalle deserves far more support and
credit than he ever gets. And if MND was to vanish, it would be a monumental
loss to the MM.
9. Yes. I do like Glenn Sacks very much. Indeed, I think that Glenn Sacks is
a truly top-notch activist - and, quite probably, the best all-round activist in
the MM.
10. Yes. I do receive emails from feminists but I do not post them up.
I see no reason to give feminists a voice on this website and I can see no
benefit that would arise from doing so. Besides which, they never really say
anything of value. Their emails are usually completely devoid of anything but
worn-out empty-headed unsubstantiated assertions - usually coupled with a strong
sense of victimhood.
Women are victims. Women are victims. Women are victims. Women
are just as good as men. Women are just as good as men. ... just
about sums them all up.
11. I am 56 years old.
12. Heretical Sex is my favourite blogger - closely followed by CoolTools4Men.
13. Yes. I think that politicians like Harriet Harman should one day be
prosecuted for purposely, knowingly and maliciously stirring up hatred towards
an entire class of people - men - for persistently deceiving the public, and for
corrupting the justice system to such an extent that hundreds of thousands
of men every year are treated absolutely appallingly as a result.
Indeed, I think that it is important that people like her are strongly punished
and publicly vilified so that never again will our politicians willfully stir up
hatred towards their very own people and cause so much distress and hurt to so
many of them.
It is one thing for politicians to make mistakes. It is quite
another for them to persist in causing serious - and, often, lifelong -
damage to people - particularly when they are fully aware of what they are
doing. Which she is.
14. In my view, the most important issue that the MM should currently be
addressing concerns 'the government'.
I believe that most departments of western governments need to be reduced in
terms of both size and power. Their ability to interfere in the work place and
in the home needs to be diminished. The amount of red tape needs to be cut down
dramatically, and all policies and procedures relating to political correctness
need to be discarded; e.g. no more 'diversity' or 'gender equality' officers, no
more corrupt family courts, no more prosecutions of men without strong evidence
that a crime has actually been committed etc.
I also think that government officials should be prosecuted when they cover up
wrongdoing, whereas government whistleblowers should be protected by law from
any retribution.
And I could go on!
But I won't.
I will just say this. Very few of you out there realise
just how malicious, uncaring and self-serving are those who nowadays work
in the higher echelons of government. You are bamboozled by their smiling,
friendly faces and their tendency to speak in calm, measured tones. But
they are experts at doing this sort of thing. It's their job! But,
behind the scenes, they are laughing at your stupidity. They do
not give a damn about you; certainly no more than you give a damn about
people who are so far removed from you that you barely know they exist. You
- all of you - are just an irritating rabble as far as they are concerned
- a rabble to which they simply have to pay lip service. But
these people have one aim, and one aim alone - to serve themselves. And
we suckers have allowed them to take enormous powers away from us -
especially through the tax system and the law - and so, through one avenue
or another, they can serve themselves very handsomely indeed. So,
all in all, if you must vote at elections, my advice is that you vote only
for a politician who promises unreservedly to reduce the tax
burden - because this is one of the simplest ways to reduce the power of
those in government. 15. My favourite books are to do with
Science. My favourite 'films' are documentaries - though I quite like good
thrillers such as the Bourne series. 16. Yes. Everything I write,
I believe. And nowadays I really do try my best not to exaggerate - unless
I am attempting to be humorous - but, sometimes, my anger gets the better
of me - and so I sometimes find myself having to re-write bits that I
posted earlier. And now I am off to bed. I am a bit
worried at the moment, and I need to rest myself, because my missus is
going off to have her cholesterol checked tomorrow morning - and if its
level is but a micro-nano-milli-mol outside of the optimum, it's lettuce
leaves, boiled cabbage, tofu and porridge for everybody for at least a
month!
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on the BBC covering up news which exposes women making false allegations ...
Hi Harry,
Tracy Brooks falsely accused 5 guys of rape, and avoided jail. The story shows up on
a daily mail web page and a Sun web page, but the BBC has so far not covered it, on TV, radio or even the internet. I phoned their complaints department, and have had THEM write to ME, explaining why they chose not to cover the story. I ask you to implore your readers to do the same. I have emailed therightsofman , and will email mensactivism next. Let's make this as time-consuming an issue as possible for the BBC, so it remembers not to ignore these stories in the future.
Thanks for your great website, as always.
T
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... on Tory MP Theresa May mentioning the need to take into account men's rights, and on AH
continuing to be hostile towards the Tories ...
HI Harry,
I was reading the article by the female
Tory, which you were fairly condemning towards, but i think it had some merit.
"Our approach will not be based on an unrealistic and undesirable equality of outcome. And we will not champion women's rights at the expense of men's rights, because gender equality is not a zero-sum game."
Off hand, i cant think of another time a politician has acknowledged the crucial difference between equality of outcome and equality of opportunity. This usual sophistry is such a common gambit on the part of the feminist. Women earn less, ie they are discriminated against. The outcome is different, hence they claim the opportunities are different, ie discrimination. The lack of women in politics, they claim, is through lack of opportunity, when it is clearly not. I think for politicians to actually acknowledge that equality of outcome is a very dangerous yardstick by which to measure equality is an important step and one that should be praised. The stats that are plastered over the media always tell us about outcome, never opportunity. Imbalances in the former is to be expected, imbalances in the latter is indeed unfair. The sooner the media and government recognise the difference the better. The strain for equality of outcome is appalling social engineering, like the 50% mandatory imposition of females on Scandinavian boards. Funnily enough, we are still waiting for feminism to plead for representation on the front lines in combat, engaging the enemy, representation on dustcarts, male representation in childcare.
O
Hi O
Yep, you are quite right - Theresa May does seem to have shifted the position in
favour of greater fairness towards men - and it does seem as if I was little
unfair towards her. (And I must confess that I do rather like the woman).
HOWEVER!
I have learned over the years that it is pure folly to back off just because
a politician has uttered a few words that you approve of. Indeed, if the
feminists were to start squealing about what she was currently saying, she would
change her tack almost instantly.
MRAs need to wake up to the fact that high politics is a really dirty game.
Those who are not involved in it have no idea just how dishonest, dishonourable
and self-serving are those who engage in these things.
And Theresa May is no different from any other politician who is desperately
seeking more power.
As such, 'aggressive' MRAs continually need to put these politicians into
positions wherein they can actually 'undermine' them and so deflect their
criticisms. That is, the politicians need to find themselves being forced to 'agree'
with the aggressive MRAs simply in order to deflect their aggression AND their
followers.
Which is exactly what Theresa May is now doing!
And my belief is that she is now doing this because I and
others have recently made it quite clear to the Tories that, as writers, we will
use our most magnificent talents around the internet to spread about the very
sensitive view that the Tories are racist if they continue to ignore
men's rights.
Tactics!
And let me explain why some of us have resorted to such loathsome means.
If MRAs were to say, "Please Theresa May, subscribe to our point of
view," Theresa May would do nothing - unless this point of view happened to
enhance her position.
On the other hand, if MRAs were to say - and I exaggerate, for effect! -
"Theresa May is an uncaring racist bit#ch who hates men. She is always
beating down on men," then Theresa May could deflect all this by shifting
her position (in favour of men) and, thus, demonstrating just how wrong those
MRAs were to say such nasty things.
And by shifting her position, she would be undermining the aggressive MRAs
and deflating their supporters.
It would be her 'way out'.
Basically, it all boils down to the carrot and the stick, doesn't it?
In essence, your view is that Theresa May should be rewarded (by MRAs) with a
small carrot for shifting her position so that it is (slightly) more in favour
of men. I do not disagree with this, in principle.
In practice, however, the heavy stick is far more effective -
particularly given that MRAs do not currently have much in the way of carrots in their
political larder. Hardly any, in fact.
Furthermore, given that men have had to endure such appalling treatment at
the hands of government and politicians for so long now, I no longer experience
any guilt over resorting to such tactics.
Unfortunately, the ugly truth about our current 'democracy' is this.
Arguing for men's rights does not bring in the votes.
But being seen as racist (a very sensitive issue) loses loads of them.
I know it. And they know it.
And, in my view, MRAs should stop pussy-footing about with these people and
use the biggest weapons that they can get hold of.
Three whole decades of almost nothing but man-hatred from these
people is enough!
As far as the 'left' is concerned, forever publicising their propensity to
wholesale corruption, self-servingness and downright dishonesty should do the
trick.
And then, of course, there are all the lies over Iraq.
Indeed, you only have to look at the news over the past few months to see
that left-wing MPs are nowadays continuously and hotly under attack on ALL
these fronts. And they are also being attacked personally.
(Even some of our police officers seem to be involved in this!)
And my message to politicians in all parties would be this.
80% of political activists are men.
And, thanks to the internet, these men are waking up.
Now, male journalists - and other men who appear in the media - might not yet be able to
publicise directly their complaints about
"men's rights" in the mainstream media - because these
media are still too scared of 'offending women' - but they can damn well vent
their anger in the mainstream towards politicians and corrupt government
officials by tackling them very aggressively indeed via other issues.
And this is exactly what is happening to an increasing degree.
Indeed, politicians and government officials are nowadays forever complaining
about the outright hostility that they are experiencing from the mainstream
media and, hence, from the public in general.
Well, this is going to get much worse unless they wake up to the fact that
they can no longer get away with generating, or supporting, all the misandry
that bathes us all - because, quite simply, men are increasingly going to react
by stirring up hatred towards them on many fronts.
And what I am suggesting is nothing revolutionary - or anything like it. It
is a common occurrence for people to raise their heckles over A, B and C when,
in fact, it was D that wound them up.
Your children have spent the last half an hour shouting and hooting and
driving you nuts? When you go upstairs, you also end up giving them hell over
their untidy bedrooms!
And this is what men who are angry at the way in which men are being treated
by our politicians need to do. They need to attack those politicians on all
fronts and - just as important - they need to let those politicians know what
they are doing and why they are doing it - so that they get the message.
Notwithstanding all the above, however, I think that you are right in what
you say about Theresa May becoming more sensitive to men's issues. And it seems
to me that David Cameron is also being slightly more careful with regard to the
way in which he deals with 'men'.
But it is nowhere near enough!
Not by a very long way.
Maybe when we finally get a Minister and a department that is seriously
devoted to the well-being of men - as there is for Women - it will be time to
back off. But until such time, I will not believe a word they say when it comes
to any rhetoric supporting men's rights.
Best wishes
Harry
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on men being allowed to rape their wives ...
Harry
your piece pointing out that the Home Office
likes to equate rape allegations with actual rapes.
Only a couple of days ago, on 'The Wright
Stuff', Matthew Wright referred to men being
allowed to rape their wives prior to 1992.
Obviously this is not true because a man could
not *rape* his wife before 1992.
B
Hi B
This is a typical distortion of the truth by those with a feminist-dominated
mindset.
In the olden days, if it was thought - e.g. by the police or other men - that
you had raped your wife - or any other woman - the chances are very high that
you would have been beaten up by them.
Does anyone really think that men who opened doors for women, gave up their
chairs to them, etc etc, simply sat by while men happily raped their wives? -
wives who would also be sisters, daughters, mothers, friends?
My belief is that a lack of the law in this area arose for at least the
following reasons.
1. It was known that it would be virtually impossible to prove rape in
marital cases - as is the situation today. And, as with most other prospective
laws that cannot be enforced easily, such laws tend not to be enacted.
2. The government did not have the power to interfere with families in those
days because, quite simply, the government was not very powerful then. Indeed,
officials who interfered with family life were likely to get the whole community
raging after them, and this would then lead to the government losing power in
many other areas - such as happens today in various crime-ridden communities.
3. Until the huge distortions of the feminists arrived on the scene -
buttressed by a mighty force via the media - it was probably well-recognised by
most people that many women are prone to lying about being 'abused' in some way
- usually in order to get other men to aggress on their behalf. Indeed, one of
the main reasons that 'no-fault' divorce was introduced was because government
officials - judges - recognised that it was virtually impossible to sort out the
ins and outs of people with a long intimate history together who were now
fighting each other in the divorce courts.
In other words, the people and the government accepted the fact that when
intimates are at each others throats, you cannot get to the truth behind their
problems.
Clearly, they still believe this to be the case when it comes to divorce.
(But, perversely, they do not believe this to be the case when it comes to domestic
violence and marital rape!)
4. The attitude of both government and the people in the past was very much
in line with the view that people were actually responsible for their own
personal decisions. (What an amazing idea!) And so, for example, if two people
stayed together then that was their choice. If they did not like each other's
behaviour then they could always part company. Furthermore, the attitude was
that marriage was a very serous affair and that if people embarked upon it then
it was up to them to make sure that they had made the right choice, and they
also had to realise that they were, in effect, becoming one person.
5. A common female attitude towards sex with their husbands was that they
should just "lie back and think of England" whenever their husbands
wanted sex when they did not. This is now called 'rape'. The reality, however,
was that most wives recognised that their husbands were labouring for many hours
every day on their behalf and it was their husbands who brought back the goodies
for the family. And submitting to him sexually was part of the deal - something
which both parties understood.
And one of the reasons for this understanding was that it was well-recognised
that men were mostly attracted to women because of their personal
attractiveness, whereas women were more influenced by a man's wealth - or
prospective wealth.
Now, a woman's attractiveness fades over time, but a man's wealth tends to
accumulate. And so one good way of keeping the balance was to advise the wives
to keep up their sexiness levels regardless of their feelings - hence, "lie
back and think of England".
This was not 'rape'. This was part of the deal.
And it was quite a good deal from a woman's point of view.
After all, when the children are older and do not need much care, and the
wife has grown older and become less attractive, what is left when it
comes to marriage for the man?
Why should he spend his increasing wealth on her?
(Remember: We are talking about 'rape' situations, not about those married
couples who got along well.)
Well, part of the deal was that she submitted to him sexually. And if she did
not keep to this part of the deal then both men and women would
have said that she was unworthy of being his 'wife'.
After all, he continues doing all the work and providing all the goodies -
and she is doing virtually nothing.
(Indeed, this was one of the main complaints of 'feminists'
around the 1860s. They were not complaining about rape or domestic violence or
discrimination in the workplace. They were complaining about women having
nothing of value to do once the children were older.)
Furthermore, the notion that females can get males to do almost anything in
return for sex was figured out even before the arrival of chimpanzees.
And you will see women all over the world using sex to get what they want.
(Indeed, men were actually designed to fall for this kind of
manipulation; e.g. see Women and Chimps.
Those who failed to fall, failed to reproduce!)
In other words, submitting sexually to your husband was never in the past
considered to be a big deal.
It is only because we are nowadays dominated by the views of dysfunctional
feminist women - most of who hate men - that having sex with your husband when
you are not in the mood is considered to be an act of 'rape'.
All in all, therefore, it was not the case that it was all right for a
husband to 'rape' his wife. The situation was that, in practice, it was not
possible to enforce a law which prohibited such an event. It was impossible to
determine if such an event had taken place. It was known that women lie about
such things. It was believed by both men and women that women had
some kind of duty to recompense the men who laboured on their behalf and, of
course, it was recognised that bringing the law into 'the home' would likely
cause huge disruption to the whole of society - which is exactly
what has now happened.
But the claim that it was considered 'acceptable' for a husband to 'rape' his
wife is utter nonsense. A husband who did such a thing might have got away with
it, but there is no way that such a thing was considered to be 'acceptable'.
And by 1908 ...
The wife has but to scream and appeal to the nearest policeman, and prison, separation, custody of children, and maintenance, are decreed as matters of
course. Belfort Bax (1908)
Best wishes
Harry
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on the outright betrayal of men ...
Dear Harry
Firslty let me congratulate you on a truly wonderful site.
I am a 66 yr old male accountant who has been happily married for over 30
years. I find myself outraged by feminism.
Like you, I remember very well the days of my youth and in no way that I
recall were women treated badly by men. On the contrary, women were supported,
encouraged, sheltered, protected, flattered both within the home and outside it,
with the mother always considered to be the boss at home.
Men opened doors for women, raised their hats when they passed them in the
street, and put great efforts into ensuring that women were as comfortable as
possible. Millions of men also died in order to protect their values and their
way of life.
Yet these obnoxious man-hating feminists have now told lies for many years
about the past and about the men of this country with their claims that these
men treated women badly They have betrayed outright those very men who brought
about the realtively good times that now exist.
It is men that they can thank for what they have, but all they do is pour
venom and scorn on them.
I never knew my father because he died in 1944 (in World War 2). For the
first half of my life I honoured him with the thought that his death had not
been in vain but now I believe that it was in vain and that his life was, in
fact, wasted.
Young men today should be rising up against feminism in the same way that my
father's generation of men rose up against Hitler. Hatefulness and evil need to
be fought, or they will gradually take over and take control.
I salute you for your efforts in trying to rally them.
Best,
GP
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on men should not look at buildings in which children once were ...
Dear Harry
I was alerted to your site recently by a work colleague and am glad to see
that you link to the Manifesto Club.
Last week the club received the following email from a Mr Parker.
'Last week I was watching some building work on an empty old school building near me being renovated when two police officers came and demanded my details and photo ID. They said it was because in their judgement I had displayed "an unhealthy interest in children", which was amazing because there was not a single child to be seen, anywhere. The children were all at a brand new building which can't even be seen from where I was standing."
K
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on Where are all the Sex Slaves? - and how it all works in Sweden ...
Dear Harry.
I have just read your latest article on trafficking entitled “Where Are All
The Sex Slaves?” I agree with your comment regarding the substantial
incentives for these women to lie, claiming to have been forced into this
particulair industry against their will. What a crazy situation indeed where
incentives are given to people to lie rather than tell the truth.
I live in Sweden where prostitution is illegal. This means of course 'illegal
to buy' but not 'illegal to sell', as of course all women who sell sex are total
victims who are forced into it by evil men or cruel life circumstances beyond
their control..... You get my point.
The concept of free will does`nt seem to apply to females anymore (Did it
ever??). Anyway - the feminist brigade in Sweden (almost the entire population
btw.) are thus faced with the problem of how to explain why so many young middle
class Swedish women still sell their bodies for money, both in Sweden as well as
in even richer countries like Saudi Arabia or Japan and, more importantly, why
so many eastern european women come to Sweden to “ply their trade”.
Feminists have no real explanation for why young middle class western women
still continue to sell their bodies both at home, other than that all these
girls are probably addicted to hard drugs. On the other hand these same
feminists choose generally to keep very quiet about middle class swedish girls
who sell sex in Japan and other rich countries . When it comes to eastern block
women though, feminists just repeat the same old mantra - that these women are
forced through violence or decieved by manipulative svengali type males who get
them here on the pretext of working as nannies or waitresses!
If you are a criminal in Russia or Estonia working in the sex trade, with the
job of recruiting, say, 20 women to work in Sweden in an underground brothel
then it obviously makes sense to get 20 women who will co-operate and who will
work voluntarily rather than instead try to trick or threaten 20 “normal women”
who would probably be horrified at the prospect of working as a prostitute.
These women would not be “good workers”, neither could they be trusted not
to escape and blow the whistle to the authorities at the first available
opportunity, ending the whole lucrative enterprise and putting the organisers in
prison.
An operation of this scale takes a hell of a lot of organising I would
imagine. People need to be employed as couriers to bring the girls over. False
work permits and other credentials would also presumably be needed, premises and
apartments would need to be rented where the girls can live and work. Maybe most
important of all clients/customers for the girls would also need to be made
available. All this takes manpower, time, effort and money in order to get the
enterprise up and running – it does`nt just happen. There is also a huge risk
involved to the organisers too, as the whole enterprise is illegal.
But such an organisation does stand to make alot of money - for everyone
involved. If these girls have sex with 5 customers per day at £60 a time then
just 1 girl can earn £300 per day!!! That is over £2000 per week or over
£8000 per month - taxfree!!! It beggars belief how much 20 girls could earn in
a month, but it would be plenty enough to go around I would imagine. Everone
wins! – JUST AS LONG AS THE ENTERPRISE RUNS SMOOTHLY and the authorities don`t
catch a whiff of whats going on - which is why it would be madness to trick and
coerce these women when there would be so many hardened “professional girls”
presumably, in these eastern european countries, who would gladly do the work
without having to be manipulated or threatened!!!
Even if these women only kept 20% of their earnings then they would still
earn £1600 per month each – taxfree!!! How many Russians or Estonians earn
that much a month after tax??? I bet that even doctors over there don`t earn
that much!
The bottom line is that Russian women come to richer contries like Sweden and
sell sex, for the same reason that Swedish women go to richer countries to sell
sex – because it is an easy way for them to make a lot of money – much more
than they would otherwise be able to make working in a clothes shop or behind a
perfume counter somewhere. The majority of these women are not starving and
destitute and they are not forced in any way to do what they do. They are
exercizing their free will as adults and they do it presumably because they want
a better standard of living (materialistically speaking).
My guess is that if these girls are addicted to anything then it is, more
often than not, their own consumer spending – rather than hard drugs like
heroin.
Regards
L
PS. It happens in Sweden just the same as you described in the article. When
these prostitution rings get busted and the women admit to coming here of their
own free will, they get penalized and sent straight back. But - if they roll
over and play victim, blaming the nearest man, then they are given all the
benefits you described.
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on global warming being a cover up for peak oil ...
Dear Harry,
You seem to have an interesting angle on most things so what about doing a
piece on peak oil?
See, like most people I was distracted by global warming when the real
problem is peak oil.
The reason they want us to stick solar panels and windmills on our roofs has
got nothing to do with global warming. Were running out of the black stuff and
our slimy leaders are keeping it quiet. In fact we don’t have to actually run
out to cause chaos. Just a little less supply than demand and were all stuffed.
The oil wars start for real
So don’t let me down harry. Give it the angry harry treatment like only you
know how!!
B
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on women being given even further financial inducements to make false
accusations ...
Hi Harry,
I just read that 'victims' of rape will be allowed to sue their 'attackers' for
compensation ...
A retired teacher today won a landmark law lords ruling giving her the right to claim compensation from a serial rapist
... the unanimous ruling ... is expected to pave the way for thousands of victims to pursue claims for damages many years after their
abuse.
... I barely need to imprint on you the significance of this ruling. From now on, women will regularly seek to make false allegations - particularly against wealthy men - since they can do so with full anonymity and are VERY unlikely to be punished if caught-out. Women who make false allegations stand to make MILLIONS of pounds. Due to this ruling, innocent men will lose their lives, liberty and property.
Wealthy men are rendered particularly vulnerable by this ruling. There isn't a woman alive who wouldn't consider making a false allegation if she stood to gain a considerable sum of money.
If I were Peter Stringfellow [a wealthy nightclub owner] I'd be VERY afraid.
I wonder if men will be allowed to seek similar complaints against women who make false allegations? I wonder if PIGS MIGHT FLY!!!
And this doesn't just apply to rich men; ANY man who has more than a few grand in the bank or who owns a house or who has ANY future earning capacity is a potential target.
Regards,
C
Hi C
I would merely add that this ruling is completely consistent with the very
essence of feminism - the desire to make it virtually impossible for men
and women to have close relationships - in this case, by further encouraging
women to make false accusations and by making men more fearful of having close
relationships with women.
As I am forever saying, the major driving force behind the
feminists is a hatred of men - nothing else explains what they say
and do - and their left-wing friends in power support them because they profit
very handsomely indeed - to the tune of billions of dollars - from
promoting inter-gender disharmony and relationship breakdown.
With regard to any wealthy men who get taken to the cleaners, I can only say
that they should have given more support to websites such as this one!
Best wishes,
Harry
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new devious tactics to entrap men ...
Dear Harry,
I thought you may find this news story of interest, since it is yet another
example of the state agenda's attempts to oppress men in the name of 'justice'.
Whilst an individual of your experience will doubtless realise this for
yourself, the practice described is flawed in both its premise and execution:
In premise, it assumes that the low conviction rate is due to some
'miscarriage of justice' rather than an excess of false accusations. This is
nothing new to the Rape illusion.
In practice, the example described to elicit a confession is exceptionally
vague ...
Police are considering employing controversial text message tactics to trick rape suspects into incriminating themselves, it is
reported.
As an aside, I would like to thank you for all the work you have put in to
your site. Having been a male 'victim' for so long, I say without a modicum of
insincerity that some of your work has helped my emotional recovery from a
mindset that threatened my career. As a male Oxford student, this has rescued my
degree and should see me continue my studies in the US in medical nanotechnology.
Fortunately I no longer feel obliged to earn lots of money in a job that saps
my soul in order that I might attempt to please a materialistic Western woman.
Thanks again for your hard work,
P
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on free speech ...
Hi Harry
I sympathize with your campaigns against the knife block but I am a great
believer in free speech. I know from your work that you also believe in free
speech so how can you reconcile this contradiction?
J
Hi J
There is no real contradiction between my views on this cursed knife block
and a belief in free speech in the sense that, when it comes to 'social' issues,
there is no black and white. There is no 'truth'. It is always a question of
balance.
And so when I say I believe in free speech I do not really mean that all
speech should be totally legal. And my guess is that you feel the same way.
For example, do you think that it should be legal for a woman to go around
accusing an innocent man of being a child abuser or a wife beater? - perhaps
simply because she wants a better deal in a divorce court. Should it be legal
for a woman to make a false accusation of rape? Should it be legal for an
influential person to lie and lie about others and, for example, encourage
others to kill them?
I suspect that you would agree that such speech should be illegal - or at
least punished in some way.
My concern about free speech is mostly to do with the censorship typically
associated with political correctness; i.e. that one should not say certain
things - **even when true** - simply because others might be offended in some
way; or - just as likely these days - **pretend** to be offended in order to
stop others from putting forward a perfectly legitimate, but opposing, point of
view.
This nonsense has gone way too far - with 'men' being just about the only
group about which people can say anything - no matter how offensive or untrue.
My concern about free speech has also had much to do with the way in which
lofty individuals such as politicians, judges, academics etc seem to have been
protected in the past from strong direct criticism about their various nefarious
activities; such as downright dishonesty, corruption and lying.
For example, it was not so long ago that the mainstream media never dared to
accuse such people of such things.
And, indeed, one of the main purposes of Angry Harry in its early days was to
help to break down the unwillingness of people to come out in open verbal
hostility toward those who well deserved to be on the receiving end of it. I
wanted to encourage MRAs to be forceful and, quite frankly, to be rude toward
those who were walking all over men with impunity and treating them as if they
were completely worthless.
And the only way to encourage MRAs to do such things was to do them myself
and to show them that I 'survived'; i.e. I was not bundled off into oblivion
somewhere. In other words, I could get away with it, and, hence, so could they!
True, I did have problems with my webhosters and also with Google and Amazon
in those days as a result of my outspokenness, but I am still here!
LOL!
But I think that your email reveals an issue that I have wanted to address
for some time, and it is the notion that there is some kind of 'absolute' that
one can adhere to when determining what one's viewpoint should be over any given
matter.
For example, the idea that, "I believe in free speech," and that,
therefore, all speech must be legal (no matter how unfair, how dangerous etc
etc) does not seem to be a good idea.
Similarly, "I believe in the death penalty," would probably have so
many qualifiers associated with it that the statement on its own would be
meaningless.
My point is that such grandiose statements do not usually remain valid under
more careful scrutiny. There are always boundaries, exceptions and complications
that curtail them in some way.
And the issue of 'free speech' is no exception.
And as you search and search for 'solutions' to the various problems that we
commonly address round here, you will find that there are no simple solutions.
They just do not exist.
And so when you find yourself boldly saying,
"I believe in A, B or C," as being a 'solution' to a given social
problem, the chances are very high that you have not thought deeply enough about
the problem, because such problems are usually so inordinately complex that they
are much too difficult to grasp.
And one of the reasons that MRAs need to take
this on board is that, in my view, too much time is spent on trying to figure
out relatively **simplistic** 'societal solutions' to the problems that
they face when, in fact, it would be far better if they became 'activists'
(rather than 'academics') e.g. see my pieces The
Truth About The Truth and Generating
Heat.
So, Yes, I, too, "believe in free
speech," But only up to a point!
LOL!
Best wishes
Harry
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On love and sex with robots ...
Dear Harry,
Women love to talk about how they no longer need men to protect them, provide
for them or even to be fathers to their children. In reality, women will soon be
redundant.
All great works of art, music, literature, inventions, discoveries, etc came
from men. Historically, women's only worthwhile contribution has been to bear
men children. Men built this safe, comfortable world in which women can be
sufficiently independent to treat us with contempt.
But once we have artificial wombs and realistic sexbots, we will no longer
need women for sex or reproduction. The consequences will be immense:
And we are closer than you might think. Here
is a great article about the progress of sexbots etc:
P
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on men being treated like dirt ...
Dear Harry
I come from a family of police officers, my uncle, cousin and brother were
all police men in various parts of Britain. One issue which they knew alot about
was rape and the difference in the way men and women are treated by the law. My
own brother told me a true story about a 15 year old boy in London accused and
convicted of a rape he did not commit. This is a factual story known by the
metropolitan police in London so i hope you take this as a fact and not just
another story about men being punished for rapes they didnt commit.
What happened was that this 15 year old boy was having sex with another 15
year old girl, during intercourse the girl tried to push the boy off her as she
decided she had had enough, but she only decided this as the boy was about to
orgasm. Because the boy was entering an orgasm he was physicaly unable to stop
himself and pull back when she requested. After it was finished the young girl
pushed the boy off her and accused him of rape, this boy was then taken to court
and charged with sexual offenses. He was then sent to a young offenders prison,
put on the sex offenders register and given therapy for a crime he did NOT
commit. By the time of his release he had been through so much therapy that he
was convinced himself that he was a rapist.
This story sickens me to my very stomach and makes me realise there is no
justice in the world. Women are treated and protected like children and have
little obligation to take responsibility for their own actions, which is
something they learn since childhood. They are raised and taught by society that
they are more important and will recieve more leniency when they do something
wrong. When i was talking to my uncle about womens prisons he said to me there
was no such thing as a womans prison as womens prisons are 5 star hotels with
sky television, fridges and mini-bars in every room. My uncle knows this because
as i said he was in the police officer too for over 20 years.
Men are nothing more than pawns now, we are used to pay for the luxurious
life that women now lead. We are treated like dirt, monsters and are clearly
expendible to a certain degree when it suits women and those in the position of
power who want to keep that power.
I studied psychology at university and i can also tell you that rape is a
rare crime because so few men are in fact capable of rape.
In Scottish law there are now plans to broaden the definition of rape so that
men can still be convicted for having sex with drunk women who consent and they
regret their actions when they sober up. Even being falsely accused of rape is
something few men will ever recover from, they can lose their jobs, remain
suspects in the eyes of the public and lose their families. Women caught making
false allegations are only either fined, given community service or sent to
prison for a very short time, which after they have been released have been
totally forgotten about.
Men have to fight back in all aspects of society where we are treated
unfairly, from education to the law we must fight.
G
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on rape ...
Harry,
your view on this appreciated.
Peter Hitchens expressed a proposal that in order to get more convictions he
would like to see rape laws devolved into 2nd degree and probably even 3rd
degree.
I am totally against this,
I say if a man is convicted of any degree of rape his life is virtually over.
It is not necessarily the length of term which is important.
However ,although all my arguments were cogent and totally non abusive using
your and other sites conclusions I was flamed for "spam comment". Free
speech--huh.
M
Hi M
I must confess that this "degrees of rape" issue is not something
that I have really thought about.
And one reason for my lack of thought about the matter is that I do not
really see it as being very important.
Why? - because the public's attitude towards women who allege rape is going
to continue changing in a direction that is less favourable toward them - thanks
to the activities of the MM and, of course, thanks to the appallingly high
number of false accusations that are made by lying women.
Furthermore, it is already the case that juries in the UK are mostly
unconvinced about the veracity of most current rape claims and, in my view, the
more that the justice system is corrupted simply in order to gain more
convictions, the more will the public and the juries refuse to co-operate; e.g.
see Futile
Changes by James Cox - in the Guardian!
Indeed, thanks to the growing MM, and thanks to the internet, the more that
men are mistreated, the bigger will be the backlash and the more powerful will
the MM grow.
And, of course, with regard to the rape issue, it will not just be 'women'
who will bear the brunt of the backlash that arises from this, it will be the
justice system and the politicians as well.
But I do agree very strongly with your view that, currently, a
man's life is ruined whatever 'degree' of rape he is convicted of.
However, in the long term, I suspect that if there are increasing numbers of
men who are convicted of minor degrees of rape - or accused of such, but not
convicted - then 'rape' will become something of a joke - a bit like what has
happened with regard to shoplifting - and, for example, comedians will start
fooling around with humorous scenarios that, allegedly, constitute 'rapes'.
And so, all in all, I am not too worried about the dividing of 'rape' into
different degrees because this will help to energise the MM quite significantly
while the collateral damage (the number of falsely accused men) will be
relatively small.
Indeed, thanks to the internet, the same sort of logic is clearly going to
apply in many areas of concern to men.
In the past, 'men' were unable to protest effectively. And so whenever 'men'
were being mistreated or disadvantaged they just had to sit back and take it.
But those days are over. And, henceforth, every injustice will play right into
our hands.
Ah yes.
Activism!
LOL!
Best wishes
Harry
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On Mark Read, otherwise known as, Chopper ...
Dear Angry Harry
I just saw your reference [Homosexual Sadism]
to a commercial featuring Mark "Chopper " Read on the Swartz
Foundation web site. I absolutely agree with your comments about this. I find
the use of threats to men who go to gaol for wife beating rather stupid. What
about the women who bash and even kill their husbands but never get gaol time?
What an imbalance! As for Mark Read, he has been on TV over here on a number
of occasions notably on the Elle Mcfeast program where he was discussing how he
killed other criminals. Disgusting stuff really. He is the author of several
books on his life in gaol etc.
I wonder what the publics reaction would be to a TV commercial where women
who bash their husbands are threatened with violence if they go to gaol.
It seems that its quite OK to inflict violence on men and we are supposed to
just take it . This has got to change, and I think its people doing what you do
that will bring this change about.
Take care
Kind Regards
P
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Is AH pro-Zionist? ...
Hi Harry
Are you pro-Zionist? Apparently you are, amongst many other things, according
to somebody called AWS.
"One can not be pro-homosexuality and anti-feminist at the same time which the Angry Harry zealots are. Homosexual males are not part of the anti-feminist men's movement. This was the reason Angry Harry lost the first time and will lose again. Angry Harry supporters are website also pro-Zionist which again is not part of the real men's movement. Too bad you folks do not push the real and only hardcore anti-feminist website on the planet which is
... We get many more visits then Angry Harry."
J
Hi J
LOL! x 5
I am neither pro-Zionist nor anti-Zionist because - to put it bluntly - I am an
ignoramus when it comes to such things. In fact, the only worthwhile view
that I do have about this issue is that I feel very sorry for all
those people who are involved in the mess in the Middle East.
And any other view that I might have about such a matter would
be decidedly uninformed.
Goodness knows from where AWS got his impression - by failing to read
properly would be my guess. LOL!
And by failing to think properly too - judging by this curious
statement of his, ...
" One can not be pro-homosexuality and anti-feminist at the same time"
I know many anti-feminist MRAs who are "pro-homosexuality" - at
least in the sense that they believe that what goes on in people's bedrooms is
no concern of theirs - which is my view. And I am also fairly sure that many
anti-feminist heterosexual MRAs will most happily fantasise scenarios involving
lesbians!
Further evidence for AWS' lack of thought can be gleaned from the following
statement, ...
"Angry Harry supporters are website also pro-Zionist which again is not part of the real men's movement."
... because the Men's Movement cannot be
circumscribed in such a ludicrously simplistic black and white fashion.
Furthermore, of course, AWS cannot possibly know who my supporters are. He might
be aware of some small subset of them, but that's all.
In other words, he is talking out of his backside - which, I think, is fairly
obvious.
Perhaps you can inform him, therefore, that among my supporters are many Jews
and many Muslims - and quite a few Christians too!
Finally, as a general rule, if you see anyone trying to mark out what ideas
and/or who is, or is not, 'part of the MM', then the chances are very high that
they have failed woefully to grasp the enormity of what is happening.
Indeed, I have even seen some MRAs talk about "throwing people out of
the MM"!
LOL!
How on Earth do you do that?
Thanks J
Harry
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on the worm called David Cameron ...
Hi Harry,
You've probably heard David Cameron talking about men "thinking they can
get away with rape" and voicing his concern at the number on unsuccesful
rape convictions.
I am sure any politician who suggested to Mr Cameron that the reason there
arn't "enough" rape convictions is that there arn't enough rapists out
there and that many cases that come to court are false would have his or her
career destroyed by the feminist lobby.
Cameron also has been droning on about the sexulisation of society? Where is
the evidence of a sexulisation of society?
When middle england talks of sexulisation of society what they really mean is
that we have too much sexual freedom and we need to go back to being sexually
repressed.
Calls from right-wing Daily Mail reading pressure groups to jail porn viewers
are evidence of this.
D
Hi D
Here is a copy of my recent email to conservatives.com
...
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Dear Sir/Madam
If David Cameron persists in attempting to stir up hatred towards men by
perpetuating the lie that men accused of rape in the UK are mostly getting away
with their crime then I and my various cronies (and I have a lot of them) will
attempt to stir up hatred towards the Tory Party by persistently and publicly
accusing the Tories of being racist.
The *overwhelming* evidence is that the *majority* of women who go to the
police to accuse men of rape in the UK are, in fact, lying.
Best wishes
Harry
PS I recommend my piece,
Rape Baloney
..............................
I trust that you are impressed!
Harry
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men on leashes ...
G'day Mr. Harry,
I must say there aren't many sites that I regularly visit but yours certainly
will be one of them, especially after the boiling fury that built up inside of
me after reading the article about Steve Jones. [Steve Jones -
A Parasite?] It really did make me quiver in anger. He certainly is no man,
when he can actively degrade us as a sex for his own financial gains. Sickening.
I am however very interested in this Men's Movement. I will no doubt make an
effort to be on the front line, once I finish my degree (and that comment Jones
made about more girls going to uni is a crock of bull, because they study
useless subjects in comparison to the boys).
Us men need to put an end to the feminist propaganda that is being spread
like a wildfire among the young girls of our communities. I can't walk down the
street without seeing men on leashes, depressed and angry.
Thanks for your time.
S
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male nudity on TV ...
Hi Harry
It is terrific to happen upon your website. Please allow me to air some of my
concerns. I am quite moved by discovering your website.
I am concerned with all aspects of Men's issues, but was actually moved when
I read your comments about Bobbitt and how people interpret this level of female
violence and violence in cinema and on TV. I totally deplore how mainstream TV
in the UK will happily portray violence towards men. I feel so passionate about
this subject that I discuss it with colleagues and friends. Seemingly there is
much lethargy towards this matter which infuriates me.
I have just watched an episode of Hollyoaks and was amazed that a male
character was badly beaten by another male character. No warning before this
programme which airs at 6:30 pm on channel 4.
Hollyoaks has many feisty female characters and it drives me crazy as to how
these wimmin can hit men and kick them in the balls as if it were normal
acceptable behaviour. So in this programme men are victims of all round violence
constantly. Yet channel 4 does not warn us about the violence.
Yet, many years ago, Jim MacDonald hit his wife in Coronation Street and
there was a whole media frenzy surrounding this episode. I am totally against
violence of any description but felt the media circus was a joke. And yet, this
character, Liz MacDonald hits men frequently. Why is this different?
The hypocrisy surrounding acceptable levels of nudity in TV infuriates me
too. I saw a trail for a TV programme on ITV about 18 months ago. This was aired
at around 5pm. The programme was an adult drama starring David Jason amongst
others. In the programme there are flash backs to the character's youth. He had
been sleeping with another mans wife and therefore had to sneak out of the house
naked holding his clothes in front of his privates. We saw his backside as he
waddled off down the street. I was annoyed that male nudity could be shown in
children's hour without any warning. And yet, in the same week, ITV warned
viewers of nudity before Tarrant on TV at 10:30pm. The programme started and
went to ad breaks. Before the programme re-started, another warning came up
about nudity. I was intrigued as to what we were going to see. A female
bottom!
That was just one of several examples I have complained to Ofcom about. TV
adverts, the seemingly acceptability of violence towards men to advertise, for
example, a pie for heavens sake. There is an epidemic in UK TV mainstream media
and it is caused, I believe, by gay male writers. I strongly believe they act
out their own fantasies when writing soaps and the like.
Dr Who, superbly resurrected by Russel T Davis. As a child fan I was excited
at the prospect of the programme returning to our screens, Whilst there was a
much needed modern approach to the programme I was furious at how 'camp' some of
the episodes he wrote were. indeed, in an interview, on BBC3 the man himself,
reffering to a specific episode admitted that he wanted Cpt Jack's backside to
be aired. He said he see's women's backsides all the time on TV!! Erm
when?
I strongly feel that gay writers (more specifically male) are living out
their fantasies in their writings and getting revenge on ex partners. I am
convinced that they feel obliged to push the boundaries further than the last
one. This can be seen in the appalling Clapham Junction that was show earlier
this year. I was totally incensed at the level of nudity in this programme. We
even saw a partial errect penis. I complained to Ofcom but once again received
back the usual drivel about levels of warnings before the programme.
What concerned me with this programme, was not only the negative way in which
gay men were portrayed - as if there was nothing to their lifestyle other than
sex, anonymous sex and violent sex - it was the expectations of the actors
themselves. Whilst I am no prude by any means, i would congratulate any writer
who could get his point across in a way without violating an actor's privacy.
I am at exploding point on such matters. I considered setting up a blog but I
am so 'brainwashed' in to the sensitivities of wimmin that I decided against it.
Anyway, i could never compete with the master.
You are a real hero to people like me. the real problem with men is their
lethargic careless attitude to such subjects. I believe its in-bred into them.
Thanks for your time mate.
S
Leeds (UK)
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on old woman now paying a high price for their support of a man-hating
ideology ...
Hi Harry.
Just had to comment on your link to the "Lonely Oldies" article in
the Telegraph, pointing out that so many old people have lonely lives; with the
inevitable slant towards how much women are suffering:
"The situation is worse for elderly women, who are twice as likely to
feel trapped in their homes than men."
Yes indeed. I have tried making this point to government, the medical
industry and anybody else with ears and the ability to do something about it,
that the shameful life expectancy gap between men and women, a national disgrace
in itself, is also simply unhealthy for everyone and creates terrible problems
throughout society. But nobody wants to listen. They still think it is wonderful
that women live way longer than men, and seem determined to maintain or widen
the gap. For example, still no national screening programme for male-specific
cancers - one of my regular hobby-horses that runs and runs because nobody is
interested in addressing the issue.
But here is another example of the result. Hundreds of thousands of lonely
old women, living alone, unable to fend for themselves and living in fear of
what may be on the other side of their front doors. And huge numbers of them
dependent on others - particularly of course the state, aka the taxpayer - to
look after them. Their numbers are increasing and they represent an increasing
percentage of the population. A demographic and social time bomb indeed.
Yet all so unnecessary, if only we had learned to value men's lives as highly
as those of women. Just imagine how this problem would shrink and be contained
if there was, on average, one man of equal age for every old woman. The
loneliness problem would largely disappear. The dependency problem would be
substantially reduced (men, even old ones, are far more practical than women at
solving problems and fending for themselves) and so would the fear problem (a
man around the house, even an old one, is a deterrent to troublemakers and a
reassurance for women). And if one partner falls ill or has a nasty accident,
the other can summon help.
But we have chosen to turn away from such common sense, and insisted on
creating a gross imbalance in life expectancy; so that the hundreds of thousands
of men who could have been supporting and comforting these legions of old women,
are all dead before their time.
And I have to say I find it difficult to muster much sympathy for these women
who find themselves alone and vulnerable. A harsh judgement? Maybe. But just
think.They have all had a lifetime, indeed a privileged longer lifetime than
men, to have done something to help men to share the same life expectancy they
have enjoyed. They could, at any and every time of their lives, have insisted on
equal funding for men's health care. But they didn't. They could, at any and
every time of their lives, have campaigned to improve safety for men at work, to
reduce the risks that men face in their dangerous jobs. But they didn't. They
could, at any and every time of their lives, have told politicians that they
would not vote for them unless they paid as much attention to the lives and
health of males as they did to females. But they didn't.
They could even have done something at a personal level to help men live
longer, such as taken up a career in andrology. But who ever heard of a female
andrologist? Do any exist? We have male gynaecologists by the bucket-load; men
who have devoted their careers to improving women's health; but no reciprocal
courtesy or concern from women towards men (which is, incidentally, another
reason why it would be disastrous to allow women to monopolise the medical
profession - it would become just a gigantic gynaecological empire, with men's
health issues neglected to the point of extinction. If women specialise, it is
only ever in their own health needs).
But instead, these women have just sat back and watched as men died
needlessly through lack of proper care and provision, only shifting themselves
to complain about how widows are so hard done by. Some of them actively
campaigned for the exact opposite of fair treatment between the sexes, and
insisted on special protections and additional funding for women's health. Many,
many more did not actively join the campaigns for INequality, but quietly
approved of them, dipping into their purses to help pay for them and wearing the
pink ribbons, while doing nothing to help men towards the same level of support.
Now they have to pay back a little bit of the price for their bias,
selfishness and narrow-mindedness; they have killed off the very people who
could have been beside them in their hour of need. So they can enjoy their
longer life expectancy with its loneliness, dependency and fear. Will it ever
occur to them that it could all have been a lot better?
T
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on women going out to work ...
Hi Harry!
I am a young woman (from the east) and I am currently preparing an introductory lecture on gender awareness (which is why I stumbled upon your website). Though I don't plan to curse you or anything like that, I just wanted to make a few points. For one, I was enlightened by the first part of your article. It provided a different perspective and I believe in seeing the bigger picture of things. This is precisely why I talk about gender awareness rather than feminism, because like you said, each gender has their own shit to put up with really, and we just have to learn to understand each other.
However, and I don't know if this is just part of that mischievous humor of yours, you do make some pretty outrageous statements. I mean, I am also turned off by angry feminists who go to the extreme (burning their bras and hating all men) but you seem equally extreme in suggesting that things should go back to how they were with women at home and raising children. It may have worked in the past (and in the west) but times are different now. Of course, women can still opt to do that and why not? It would be a pleasure not to have to work, and personally I would like to have children and raise them well, but I feel I have more potential and more talents to explore. Besides, it's not like there's a shortage of employment now. (And here in the Philippines, some wives have to work to help make ends meet.)
I would also like to point out that while you may be tired of being accused of so many crimes as a man, it would be unfair to disregard all the suffering that billions of women have gone through (if not in the west then in the east). For example, in China, female infants are killed or neglected because of son preference. In some countries, when a man offends someone else, that other person takes it out on his sister or wife (throwing acid in her face, etc.). There are actually so many other issues which I won't get into now though. I don't think we have to dwell on them and feel sorry for ourselves as women, but we have to at least acknowledge them so that we can do something about them.
Anyway, maybe it is too much to ask you to consider the state of the whole world when you write. And maybe being too balanced in your writing would cause you to lose your edge (then you would be just Harry instead of Angry Harry, I guess). But you do seem like an intelligent person and you did say you didn't want to be wrong or unfair. So that's my penny's worth.
C
Hi C
Just two points.
1. You are the second woman to claim recently that I am urging women to get
out of the workplace and to go back to working at home and raising the children.
But where have I said this?
I have no problems AT ALL with women going out to work.
Au contraire!
I WANT women to go out to work - if they want to.
It is women who, mostly, seem not to want to work - and this is
why, statistically speaking, they do not climb as high as men in
the workplace.
My only gripe about women in the workplace is when they expect to be handed
out preferential treatment.
In comparison to men (and boys), women (and girls) already get enough
preferential treatment by the bucketload.
Please tell me where I have suggested that women should not go out to work.
2. Yes, I take your point about the maltreatment of women in the East, but my
guess is that men are treated worse - mostly by other men.
Best wishes - and thank you for writing to me,
Harry
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What's wrong with talking about the slave trade? ...
Hi Harry
At least three times I have seen you complaining about the publicity about
the slave trade. As a black man, this is an important part of history for me. It
makes me shudder a bit when you complain about the publicity about it.
G
Hi G
My problem is not really with the publicity about the slave trade, it is more
about the manner in which this publicity is dished out and also about those
people who are doing it - i.e. the usual politically-corrected culprits when it
comes to stirring up hatred towards white men.
And it also mostly seems to me that any talk about the slave trade usually
involves some fairly invidious, sometimes sneaky, attempt to blame white men for
what was, in fact, a truly international trade; one which has been going on
throughout the whole of history - with whites being just as badly treated as
blacks.
Furthermore, given that it was mostly whites who first got up in arms over
the whole sorry business, whites certainly should not be walking around with
their heads bowed any lower than anyone else when it comes to slavery.
I also believe that *much* of the politically-corrected focus on the slave
trade has more to do with certain groups wishing to stir up racial disharmony
rather than anything else. Indeed, many large groups profit from racial
disharmony - including the feminists.
And it also seems to me that if people keep going on and on and on about how
various other groups have mistreated others in the past, then there is precious
little hope that harmony between those groups will ever prevail.
Furthermore, and for example, we in the UK are aware that blacks are
disproportionately responsible for the violence that takes place in our streets,
but the media do not keep going on about this.
If they did, you would feel pretty bad, would be my guess.
Well, that's a bit like how I feel about the slave trade hoohah.
I had nothing to do with it, and neither did most people in this country at
the time.
By all means, talk about the slave trade. Teach the children about it. But
let us not allow people to believe that it was just a white-on-black phenomenon
that simply occurred 'in the west' over a few hundred years.
However, having said all this, as an avid reader of this most fabulous
website, you must surely be aware that I am - how shall I put it? - rather
touchy about the constant criticising - directly or indirectly - of white
heterosexual men - because I have had enough of it.
We have numerous faults, for sure. Some of them truly horrible. But, as a
whole, we are also, surely, some of the most tolerant people on the planet.
And when it comes to feminism, too tolerant - by far!
LOL!
Best wishes
Harry
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On the occasional smack ...
Dearest Harry
I just wanted to say thank you for making your brilliant website. It has helped me to feel like I am not the only one with the same views. Especially with the smacking children
articles. I find even writing to say that I agree with the smacking children
articles hard ,for want of not wanting to appear as though I might abuse my children. If this is the case how will it ever change?
I find that not only do I feel repressed in handling my children but in owning my dog (fear of him doing anything to upset anyone else) dropping my cigarette butt on the floor and attracting a big fine (I do want to put my fags in the bin but its still not nice having the fear there) and numerous other things where I feel I have to tiptoe around everyone else for fear of them making a complaint. I find that people/government/laws want to control everything so as not to experience anything horrible, but where is the freedom if you do not have the freedom to make mistakes? Control is repression. I live in a Council flat and so I see a great deal of the "raw workings of society" and I am fed up. My quality of life is pants. Rest assured I DO try my best to be an excellent member of society!
Anyway, I am not feminist so no "oppressed" comments from me just thanks and gratitude and a little moan although I shant let it get me down (in a non feminist way
lol)!
H
Dear H
Thank you for that.
My own view is that it is a serious abuse of children not to discipline them
well enough to deal with what society will eventually demand of them. And this
involves trying to ensure that their behaviours and their attitudes are
conducive to them obtaining at least a reasonable academic and social education
and some decent moral standards.
And the occasional smack for some children, in some circumstances, seems to
me to be warranted; not only because a whack on the backside at age 6 is better
than a prison sentence at age 20 but also because badly behaved children affect
negatively the well-being of all the other children and adults who have to dwell
amongst them.
Unfortunately for us, however, the abuse industry is an organism that wants
to grow. And in order to do this it tries to increase both the amount of 'abuse'
that appears to take place, as well as the amount of 'abuse' that actually
takes place.
And the smacking issue is an area which allows the abuse industry to
benefit from both of these things.
Thus, by suggesting that a smack is an act of 'abuse', it extends the
definition of abuse and so brings another area into its remit. And by reducing
the amount of control that parents can exercise over their own children, the
abuse industry can then benefit from all the various types of abuse that arise
as a result of the children in our society being less controllable.
End of pontification!
LOL!
Thanks H
Harry
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'Men' and 'boys' are never victims ...
Hi Harry
I watched a shocking Channel 4 documentary the other night about the murders of "street children" in Honduras. The reporter was Jenny Kleeman. The programme exposed how homeless children, often not even in their teens, are being targeted for beatings and executions apparently by the Honduras police force, or by businessmen acting with the complicity of the police. The reason is that these children form themselves into lawless gangs that terrorise their neighbourhoods, and often commit murders, rapes and robberies themselves. In effect there is a state of undeclared war between the gangs and the state, and the state appears to want to take the quickest and easiest route to winning - by picking out gang members and using the police to gun them down on the streets.
That is the situation in a nutshell. You can read a report summary here
and here.
But here is the rub. I watched the programme, and after a short while a truth became apparent: all of these street children and gang members are male. And so, of course, are all the execution victims. But Jenny Kleeman never once drew attention to that fact. She repeatedly, over and over throughout the programme, referred to the boys as "children". It was as if the words "boy", "boys" or "males" were simply not in her vocabulary (I have deliberately repeated her approach at the beginning of this email - shows how easy it is to mislead).
Time and again Kleeman emphasised that this was a war between "adults and children" - in fact that was very much the theme of the programme. You can see the same heavy slant in the above links, one of them written by Kleeman. She refers only to children, children, children. Occasionally youths. But never boys. Their sex has been carefully and deliberately effaced. Could you tell from either of these links that the victims are in fact 100% male? You would have had to see the programme to find out the truth. And I mean see - Kleeman's commentary alone would have misled you into thinking that there must have been girls among the victims. There weren't.
Of course it is possible that a girl or two might be in these gangs; but I doubt it. Besides, Kleeman did not mention any girl victims, and don't you just know that if there had been any, or even just one, that would have been the focal point of the programme?
The reality is of course that this is not a "generational" war by adults on children at all: it is a war by the state on boys - a very different kettle of fish. But that truth obviously does not suit Kleeman's political agenda, so she twists it. In fact this is a classic example of how the choice of misleading language can divert you down the wrong path. Because she refuses to acknowledge that the war is against boys alone, and instead keeps substituting the gender-neutral word "children", Kleeman has brainwashed herself, deliberately or otherwise, into thinking that the enemies of "children" must therefore be "adults". Hence her insistence on this being a "generational war" rather than a war on boys - or, more accurately still, a war on those boys who have no home or parental guidance and end up fending for themselves in the savage world of the streets - "abandoned boys". And she is trying to brainwash us in the same way.
I am sure you are aware of this excellent piece by Adam Jones :
 Effacing the
Male [a long detailed read, but Adam Jones looks closely at how the male
victims in the recent Kosovo War were marginalised and ignored by the media.]
Written in 2001. Nothing changes, huh?
All in all, I found the Kleeman programme one of the most grotesquely dishonest pieces of reporting I have ever encountered. Kleeman obviously likes to think of herself as a campaigner for truth and justice; I see her as a dangerously deceptive toad whose misandric credentials mean more to her than any concept of fairness.
Sadly, I cannot find any way of getting this message across to her directly. I could post on the C4 forum or write a letter of complaint to the Telegraph, but will that do any good?
Sorry to burden you with this, but maybe if you stick it up it will get across to a bigger audience. We really must expose this poison and fight it.
Regards
J
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on homegrown terrorists ...
Harry-
greetings. I hope all is well with you. I have included a link that you may
find of interest. It is an
article concerning homegrown terrorists in Germany. Some excerpts:
"What fascinates and deeply disturbs Germans is that two of the three
suspects detained in the alleged plot to bomb U.S. installations are pretty much
like them - ordinary Germans, not immigrants from another continent or people of
foreign heritage. The third man arrested is a Turkish resident of Germany."
and...
"Described as a good and inconspicuous student, Schneider abruptly
left high school two years before graduating and enrolled in a technical
college, because, according to the daily Süddeutsche Zeitung, he wanted to go
to a school "where only men teach." "
It seems that the feminist state in Germany has alienated its own males just
as the feminist state here in the U.S..
I'm not surprised.
Best regards,
K
Hi K
Yep, not long now before the homegrown backlash takes on more devastating
proportions.
What I cannot understand is why these terrorists - foreign or homegrown - do
not target the politicians and/or their various acolytes with their violence
rather than the ordinary people. I am sure that they would much more quickly
achieve their aims if they did this.
As it is, those who are the main cause of their woes and disaffection remain
largely untouched.
Harry
PS I love your email address ...
(kevinhatesfeminists@yahoo.com)
LOL!
Let's hope that some more like it are created.
.............
Which reminds me of an old piece of mine; which I repost here for any
newcomers who might be amused by it ...
Some time last year I was having horrendous and persistent problems trying to get my sites uploaded on to the Yahoo server. Despite numerous emails to and from Yahoo's useless customer support team, none of the problems was resolved. So, finally, after much wailing and gnashing of teeth over the ludicrous costs of phoning someone in America, I capitulated and telephoned Yahoo's fraudulently named
Customer Service Department to see if anything could be done.
It was about 4 o'clock in the morning over here and my mood was, well, 'black' would be a good description!
After what seemed like a week, a woman with a Texan accent answered the phone. And the conversation went something like this.
"Hello. This is Mi??chin'> . How can I help you?"
"I HAVE BEEN HAVING A PROBLEM WITH UPLOADING MY SITES TO YAHOO FOR THE PAST TWO
MONTHS! AND NOBODY AT YAHOO SEEMS TO BE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!"
"I'm sorry to hear that, Sir. Can I have your User ID please?"
"I hate feminism."
"Sorry Sir. Can I have your User ID please?"
"I HATE FEMINISM!"
"Is that your ID?"
"Yes."
Silence.
"And which sites are you having trouble with?"
"Ihatefeminism.com [one of my old sites] and Harrysnews.com."
"And what seems to be the trouble?"
"I'm very sorry but I just can't bear to explain it all over again. Have you got access to the internet while we speak?"
"Yes, Sir."
"Then please go to http:www.whatever - and read what I have written. It is all explained on that webpage."
"OK. Please hold, Sir."
And off she went to visit a webpage on which I had briefly outlined the problems and, would you believe it, on which I had also railed most vehemently at the entire staff at Yahoo's Customer Support.
"Yahoooooooseless" is what I had called them - in big, bold letters.
LOL!
Needless to say, things did not look as if they were likely to go very well when this woman finally returned to me on the phone.
And so while I was left 'on hold' I drummed my nails furiously into my desk - with my mood being considerably worsened as a result of having to listen to a woman with a high-pitched voice singing through my earpiece something about the blue mountains and the green valleys of her youth. And when she got to the bit about the flowing rivers and the handsome man that he once was - before he died, I think - I nearly had a heart attack.
Anyway. About 5 minutes later, Mi??chin'> popped back on the phone and, basically, there then followed a half-hour conversation
- at my expense -
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